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| Winston |
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winston   Registered Member #1 Joined: Sat Jun 13 2009, 02:08pmPosts: 2564 | Change made Ray. The only thing I don't understand is why you are re-numbering the frames. The mid-ship frame of a ship remains the mid-ship frame whether you add frames fore or aft. | ||
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| Raymond Deliz |
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  Registered Member #4329 Joined: Thu Dec 12 2013, 06:21pmPosts: 383 | Thanks for the change Winston. As I was comparing the cross section plans with the full ship plans, I noticed that the area I am going to construct was not numbered correctly. In the full set of plans, there are cut outs for the gunport sill aft of frame 5 to frame 7. On the cross section plans there are no cut outs aft of frame 5. | ||
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| Mike 41 |
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 Registered Member #702 Joined: Fri Feb 05 2010, 10:37pmPosts: 1252 | Hi Ray, Changing the scale was a good idea if you are going to add all the yards to the mast she will still be a very tall model. Good luck with the build. Mike | ||
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| Tim C |
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 Registered Member #4126 Joined: Fri Feb 15 2013, 05:19amPosts: 1113 | Ray and Winston I also spent some time on that frame difference. Was told that they were two different builds and not to worry about it. See my MSW build thread in cross section on it. Good Spot. Glad that you are making it the way that you want, for you. Later Tim | ||
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| Raymond Deliz |
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| Registered Member #4329 Joined: Thu Dec 12 2013, 06:21pmPosts: 383 | Mike, I figured that would be the way to go taking into account the mast and yards that I plan to add onto her. Tim, I too was told the plans were different due to trying to make it easier for the modeler. I will refer back to your build to see what I can incorporate into mine if you don't mind. | ||
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| Raymond Deliz |
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| Registered Member #4329 Joined: Thu Dec 12 2013, 06:21pmPosts: 383 | Hello to all, I’ve made a little progress today on the Triton. I remade the keel, false keel, and keelson at the new correct scale and also made them longer to incorporate the additional three frames necessary to add the main mast. Upon completing the keel, I marked the areas that will receive the frames to ensure everything was on the up and up. I decided to experiment making my first frame by following Gene’s explanation on the Eagle and it really seems straight forward. After cutting the 3/16 basswood to size, I marked my working sheet in order to get the correct angles needed to follow the frames contour. Once all the pieces were cut, I laid wax paper on my drawing and placed futtocks 1, 3, and the top timber followed by the floor timber and futtocks 2 and 4. After everything was glued and in place, I placed a board on top of the frame and a car jack to compress everything and hold it in place (please don’t judge me, that’s all I had on hand). I’ve decided that what I will do is cut patterns with correct angles of all futtocks from card stock and go to town and knock out the other 11 frames.      | ||
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| Mike 41 |
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| Registered Member #702 Joined: Fri Feb 05 2010, 10:37pmPosts: 1252 | Hi Ray, You are off to a good start with the frames and it looks like BIG RED will get the job done quite nicely. Mike | ||
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| Gary M |
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| Registered Member #4198 Joined: Tue May 07 2013, 10:50pmPosts: 904 | Hi Ray, I like the car jack tip... I have a three ton jack waiting in the wings. Gary | ||
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| Raymond Deliz |
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| Registered Member #4329 Joined: Thu Dec 12 2013, 06:21pmPosts: 383 | To all my friends on MSB, I've been working on the H.M.S. Triton and decided to use Gene's method of building frames (as per his Eagle Practicum). I was content with my progress and updated my logs, here and there, and automatically felt I was being attacked and decided I do not need this and was on the verge of giving up model ship building all together. Let's just say that is no longer the case. I however felt I had to get a few things off my chest and wrote a response that I wish you all will review and let me know if I was disrespectful or if I handled it tactfully. Your responses will be respected as the peers/shipmates I've come to see you as. In order for you all to be able to see both sides of the coin, I've added the website that will take you to their comments, http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/5545-hms-triton-148-scale-cross-section/page-2#entry161556 "I sincerely wish no one takes it to heart what I think necessary to get off my chest. When I first came across MSW, I thought it would be great to join a community that shared the love of model ship building like I do. When I came across the H.M.S. Triton I thought it would be fun and decided to give it a whirl, not so much for other people’s approval, but for the love of model ship building. As the adage goes, “There is more than one way to skin a cat”. Keeping this in mind, I decided to build my model the way I felt comfortable doing it and decided to share my work with people that had similar interests as I do. No sooner had I posted my day’s work, when someone decided to judge me (and my methods) and leave me feeling disappointed, angry, and a sense that people were looking down their noses at me. I decided that I would not finish the Triton, but the love of model ship building was too great and it overcame my anger and disappointment. Seeing how she was coming to life before my eyes, I thought, “I’ll build you the way I want” all the while singing Elvis Presley’s, “I did it my way”. Now that being said, I was able to get five more frames done and upon dry fitting them to the keel, I was not able to help but smile to myself at how great she was starting to look. I still have to get more timber in order to complete the last six frames necessary in order to get started on the inside. I’ve downloaded, “Anatomy of the Ship, The 74-gun ship Bellona” and am currently referencing the items I want to incorporate into my build such as the mast step, shot lockers, pump well, pumps, and quarterdeck rail just to mention a few items. Since I will soon get the other frames completed, I will start on the jig that will support my build. Below are a few photos showing what I have so far.     | ||
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| Gene Bodnar |
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 Registered Member #126 Joined: Tue Jul 21 2009, 11:20amPosts: 1778 | Raymond, Take heart: The objective in this hobby is to have fun. One way to have fun is to experiment with a variety of different methods, materials, and ideas. It is my firm belief that, as long as the final product looks like it should, then you have been successful. How you get there doesn't matter one iota. You are the captain of your ship. Do not be discouraged by the words of purists or snobs. They are full of hot air. Never give up anything you love, no matter what it is, no matter what the reason, no matter what people say. I think you are a fine modeler and enjoy your logs. Gene | ||
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