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Gene Bodnar

Wed Dec 31 2014, 05:35pm

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Tom,

I hardly ever go to MSW any more -- and I used to be a moderator over there. Even tame subjects can turn into nightmares, especially behind the scenes.

Gene

daves

Wed Dec 31 2014, 07:08pm

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well Gary I was Harolds one and only student and you are picking up on the issue that stumped Harold and me so in effect you are the third person to tackle this. It is your thesis on drawing plans because this is difficult to do.

So I got to thinking this is the Sir Edward Hawke it would be really quite the offering to ship modelers if someone like Gary took the original plans of Harold Hahn and offered a revised version a 2.0 of where he stopped with a OOPS!
Gene both you and I know the oops and never go back this is Harold's oops

so I will post Harold Hahn original drawings in the reference section under modeling plans low res so if you want I have the high res but they are like 25 megs each. and make available the CAD dwg files worthless I am thinking but a reference non the less.

daves

Wed Dec 31 2014, 07:09pm

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also get the thesis on the Nancy it is the same time period same source Texas A&M

dave1254

Wed Dec 31 2014, 07:27pm

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This link may help for the Nancy.

http://dnelson.ca/NancyPlans.htm

Dave

Gary M

Wed Dec 31 2014, 07:50pm

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Gentlemen, I am up for the challenge!!! And welcome all the support and feedback I can get.

As I have mentioned in the past, it has been extremely personally rewarding to be associated with such a fine group as those on MSB. The sharing and support is overwhelming in a great way.

Dave1234, thanks for the link to the Nancy!

DaveS, Can you send me a thumb drive of the plans? I will reimburse for any expenses. You should have my address on file.

More later.

G

[ Edited Wed Dec 31 2014, 07:57pm ]

daves

Wed Dec 31 2014, 09:40pm

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re did the plans from RGB to a B&W bit map which reduced the size way down but still at 600 res that should work. Sent plans E-mail

Gary M

Wed Dec 31 2014, 09:52pm

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Dave, I got the plans. They are works of art and very informative at first glance. Thank you. Mr. Hahn drew them this week - 44 years ago! Lets see if we can put them to good use. G

daves

Thu Jan 01 2015, 04:23pm

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i looked at the plans
well that is something they are dated 12/26/1970
wow 44 years later almost to the day Harold Hahn put these drawings on a shelf then someone comes along and the Sir Edward Hawke project begins again.

An omen (also called portent or presage) is a phenomenon that is believed to foretell the future, often signifying the advent of change.

Bill Edgin

Thu Jan 01 2015, 04:54pm

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Gary,
You are doing fantastic work with your drawings!

Gary M

Mon Jan 05 2015, 06:12pm

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So, if you are following the discussion on LWL and Keel lines, here are the Chapelle and Hahn plans combined and then the angle of the gun ports, etc corrected. This all being said, I will pull an original copy of the Sir Edward Hawke plans from the NMM and CAD draw them. I see discrepancies when comparing the Hahn and Chapelle drawings and think it best to start from scratch rather than try to further decipher the hows and whys of what they did.

There are many things that bother me about this plan, most of all, the extreme rake of the masts.