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| donfarr |
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 Registered Member #2001 Joined: Fri Dec 23 2011, 09:51pmPosts: 1853 | OK, WANT TO START A DISCUSSION, HERE ON MY TRIDENT MODEL ALERT KIT INSTRUCTIONS, A LOT OF WHAT WE USED TO CALL ISOMETRICS ARE SHOWN, IN THE LEAD UP THERE WAS 3- MODELS, MY QUESTION TO THE GREAT TECHIES HERE, IS IT POSSIBLE TO PUT THE 3-D MODELS ON A C-D, AND EITHER HAVE IT WITH THE KIT OR AS A ADD ON, IS THE COST TO EXPENSIVE. GOD BLESS STAY SAFE YOU AND YOURS DON | ||
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| ClairG |
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 Registered Member #5747 Joined: Mon Aug 17 2020, 10:48pmPosts: 117 | If I follow you Don, and you want the 3D models in digital form then sure it could be stored on a CD as long as all the files are under 700mb. If more space is needed then you'd want to go with a DVD, single or dual layered depending again on the total size of all the files. Any half way modern DVD burner could make the disk for you. Or, you could just zip the files to compress them and store them on your hard drive, and maybe a back up on a flash drive. | ||
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| mrshanks |
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 Registered Member #5745 Joined: Sun Aug 16 2020, 02:56pmPosts: 1285 | Let me see if i can try to answer what I think you question is Don. Isomentrics are 3D drawings that show the parts in a manner where you can visualize them in your mind easier than the old style of 2D drawings shown on a flat surface. Isometric 3D drawings are the same way Lego does their instructions. You are asking if kit makers could include these types of drawings with their kits or as an add-on. Well, of course the answer is yes. They could either be drawn or included on a CD. However, just like with all CAD drawings - the work is in the creation of these drawings in the first place. Each and every single part has to be taken from a 2D flat draftman style, CAD drawing and rendered into a full 3D (isometric) image than can be turned and rotated inside the computer. This work takes time. Let's just say it takes a person 1 hour to create a 3D drawing of a part. And let's say there are 300 parts in the model. That is 300 additional hours of work (over and above the actual design of the parts) that is added to the project. Now let us say, a model kit company needs to pay its employee $25/hour to do that drawing. $25 x 300 = $7500 extra added on to the cost of producing the model kit. So it is not really about "can" a kit company do this. It is more about the "cost" of doing it. I hope this helps. [ Edited Tue Sep 01 2020, 07:27pm ] | ||
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| mrshanks |
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| Registered Member #5745 Joined: Sun Aug 16 2020, 02:56pmPosts: 1285 | And then like Clair said... add the cost of the CD and burning the CD to ship with each kit... more money. [ Edited Tue Sep 01 2020, 07:49pm ] | ||
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| donfarr |
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| Registered Member #2001 Joined: Fri Dec 23 2011, 09:51pmPosts: 1853 | OK GOT IT, COST PROHIBITED, IF MY MATH IS CORRECT TAKE THE FINAL COST AR 10,000.00 AND THE ALERT WITH 100 KITS THAT ADDS 100.00 TO THE KIT COST, OK GOT IT IT, SOME MORE QUESTIONS LATTER. GOD BLESS STAY SAFE YOU AND YOURS DON | ||
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| JimJ |
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  Registered Member #5746 Joined: Mon Aug 17 2020, 03:16amPosts: 234 | That's all true Mike, and is the reason we are only seeing CD based instruction in Chinese kits - they don't have to pay their employees $25 an hour, they're lucky to get .25 cents...lol | ||
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| daves |
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| Registered Member #105 Joined: Wed Jul 15 2009, 12:01pmPosts: 3560 | That's all true Mike, and is the reason we are only seeing CD based instruction in Chinese kits - they don't have to pay their employees $25 an hour, they're lucky to get .25 cents...lol but if rent in China is a $1.59 a month and a loaf of bread cost .03 cents .25 cents an hour goes a long way. so what if americans get paid $25 an hour if average rent is $1,200.00 a month and you can easy spend $350.00 at a grocery store or $52,000.00 on a new Chevy truck. but the point is yes all this can be done with 3D models as instructions for kits but it is just a big added cost. but think about the developers still have to do the CAD and 3D work to produce the parts so it is not an added extra. You already have the work done. Even if it was offered the average builder has to learn how to use it [ Edited Wed Sep 02 2020, 02:35pm ] | ||
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| Don Robinson |
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| Registered Member #4551 Joined: Sat Jan 03 2015, 09:51pmPosts: 56 | I agree with what Mike is saying but if you look at it further, using 3d isometric drawings may not add that much cost to a kit. If you do make up these drawings(and they can be coloured) would there still be a need for pictures? A company would need to pay some one to build the model and take step by step pictures, as many companies are doing now. So the three hundred hours he spent building the boat could be offset by using 3d isometric drawings, assuming the builder is getting the same pay as the computer operator(and he should!!LOL). The extra cost would only be if we, the modellers, demanded having both pictures and drawings [ Edited Wed Sep 02 2020, 03:17pm ] | ||
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| daves |
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| Registered Member #105 Joined: Wed Jul 15 2009, 12:01pmPosts: 3560 | from a R&D point of view it still might be neccessary to build a prototype. There are a lot of steps from the drawing board to finished product were errors can creep in. so i think 3d modeling would end up as an added step in the process rather than replacing a step. [ Edited Wed Sep 02 2020, 03:49pm ] | ||
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| mrshanks |
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| Registered Member #5745 Joined: Sun Aug 16 2020, 02:56pmPosts: 1285 | As a model builder, I don't necessarily need a 3D rendoring of each and every part to successfully build a model,. As a fabricator, I dont necessarily need a 3D CAD file to produce a model part. So, yes - 3D is an added cost . Someone has to do it. It is not free. | ||
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