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  Registered Member #4530 Joined: Thu Dec 04 2014, 03:10amPosts: 8 | ive been building ships in bottles for a few months to take a break from the hms pandora and i still havent found a perfect way to make the ocean. ive already used modeling clay plumbers putty/paint. i know there arent many people on here who make SIBs.anyone with a new suggesion? [ Edited Tue Nov 17 2015, 07:46am ] | ||
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| aew |
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aew   Registered Member #1929 Joined: Wed Nov 30 2011, 03:05pmPosts: 2950 | Although they're not ship's in bottles, Robert Wilson builds small scale models (typically pictured with a Parker pen alongside for comparison purposes). He uses plasticine for the sea and, if I remember correctly, his wife does the painting. If you do a search on the internet for "robert wilson miniature ships" you'll find lots of examples with really impressive sea (and the ships aren't bad either!) He publishes an e-book on how to build the models, I assume it includes modelling the sea.
Just found his website here. [ Edited Tue Nov 17 2015, 09:17am ] | ||
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| Ethan |
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| Registered Member #4530 Joined: Thu Dec 04 2014, 03:10amPosts: 8 | his models are fantastic. as for the ocean, i cant think of a way to make plasticine soft enough to work like that in the bottle. i may be able to make the ocean outside of the bottle on a piece of wax paper and then cut the sea into strips that will fit through the neck and glue them into into the bottle? | ||
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| aew |
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| aew Registered Member #1929 Joined: Wed Nov 30 2011, 03:05pmPosts: 2950 | From (long ago) memory, Plasticine gets soft when even slightly warm. Question for you. Does the grain run longways on that piece of boxwood you've shaped for the carriage sides? If so I'll be interested to know whether the pieces hold together when you slice them off. | ||
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| Ethan |
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| Registered Member #4530 Joined: Thu Dec 04 2014, 03:10amPosts: 8 | what boxwood are you referring to? i cant think of a good reason why splitting the ocean wouldnt work. buuuut, as you well know complications arise out of the simplest model tasks | ||
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| aew |
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| aew Registered Member #1929 Joined: Wed Nov 30 2011, 03:05pmPosts: 2950 | No, I can't see a problem with that either, although I don't know how you fix things to the glass.
That question about the boxwood is in the wrong post! Only thing is I can't remember which one it should be in. I'll have to have a search through the recent posts.
Edit: OK, found it, this is the post I was replying to. [ Edited Fri Nov 20 2015, 10:44am ] | ||
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| exwafoo |
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 Registered Member #527 Joined: Thu Dec 10 2009, 06:49pmPosts: 71 | Ethan, Have a look at http://www.bottledshipbuilder.com/ Its a forum dedicated to sibs, small and friendly and only about 6 months old. There was some recent discussion on bottled sea Regards Alan | ||
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| Ethan |
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| Registered Member #4530 Joined: Thu Dec 04 2014, 03:10amPosts: 8 | thank you alan, im their most recent member. arthur; i read a recent discussion on bottledshipbuilder that said just melting the plasticine to the bottom works, hold it over a burner for a few seconds. ethan [ Edited Fri Nov 20 2015, 05:04pm ] | ||
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| timtune |
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| Registered Member #5728 Joined: Sun Apr 26 2020, 06:45pmPosts: 25 | Hello all, I too am curious about the "sea". I have read a few books on the subject plasticine or plumbers putty and paint were mentioned. I test built a sea in the bottle easily enough but my problem was placing the ship into the sea. The books say put the boat in and press it into the sea. Easy to say hard to do. The boat is delicate and the sea is quite firm. Trying to push a boat into the plasticine using a piece of wire or even thin metal rod just bends the wire/rod as too much force was required. Even if I "carved' a divot for it to sit in the boat still needed to be pressed down into it and that was problematic. I have thought about putting the bottled sea into the oven to soften it but hav e not tried that yet. | ||
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